ࡱ>  ybjbj 7R& 8G|db0''"III$$$UbWbWbWbWbWbWb$eg{b| $$| | {bIIb % % %| IIUb %| Ub % %nGJIP7NX!lH Abb0bI8h"8h@J8hJL$ %$$${b{b$v$$$b| | | | 8h$$$$$$$$$ : WESTERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY Regular Meeting of the FACULTY SENATE Tuesday,14 November 2006 4:00 p.m. Capitol Rooms - University Union A C T I O N M I N U T E S SENATORS PRESENT: D. Adkins, M. Allen, L. Baker-Sperry, S. Bennett, V. Boynton, L. Brice, K. Clontz, K. Daytner, D. DeVolder, K. Hall, R. Hironimus-Wendt, V. Jelatis, J. Livingston-Webber, L. Meloy, N. Miczo, R. Ness, G. Pettit, S. Rock, A. Shouse, B. Sonnek, J. Wolf Ex-officio: D. Hample, Parliamentarian SENATORS ABSENT: R. Orwig GUESTS: Rick Anderson, Barb Baily, Dan Clay, Tej Kaul, Marty Maskarinec, Candace McLaughlin, John Miller, Kathy Neumann, Nancy Parsons, Polly Radosh, Dean Zoerink I. Consideration of Minutes - 31 October 2006 Corrections: On p.3, second paragraph, third line, change with to within so that it reads, within the next 12 months On p. 4, the first paragraph, last line, should read, submit input as to what they would like to see as priorities. On p. 6, first paragraph, change the fifth sentence to read, Senator Pettit noted that many expectations of the three goals developed by the FLGI subcommittee are already being accomplished addressed at Western On p. 9, change the seventh sentence to read, Senator Baker-Sperry agreed that in her experience, Gen Ed to many students is merely a check mark, and that if multiculturalism globalism is to be infused across the campus, it needs to be housed in every department. APPROVED AS CORRECTED II. Announcements A. Approvals from the President 1. Change to University Policy Manual, Course Syllabus Policy, item 3 B. Provosts Report Associate Provost Barb Baily told senators that Provost Rallo sends his regards; he is attending a meeting in Indianapolis on behalf of President Goldfarb, who is recovering from his surgery. C. SGA Report - None D. Other Announcements 1. Senators respectfully noted the unfortunate passing of Darrell Dykstra, a faculty member in the Department of History since 1977. Dr. Dykstra, who was diagnosed with cancer in 1994, died at his home on Wednesday, November 8. A service in celebration of his life was held at the University Union yesterday. Senator Boynton stated that Dr. Dykstra was a valued member of the Department of History and will be missed. The Senate Executive Committee will discuss a resolution in appreciation of Dr. Dykstras commitment to the University at its next meeting. 2. Chairperson Rock announced that approximately 20 faculty attended yesterdays Facilities Forum, and that it was a productive meeting. He stated that the message expressed by those faculty in attendance was one of greater concern for maintaining and upgrading existing facilities than for construction of new buildings. He said faculty feel that existing classrooms are not up to par and technology is not what it should be, and that these should be the highest priority. 3. Technology administrators will be available to discuss University technology problems, difficulties, and concerns with interested faculty, staff, and students during meetings with each academic college and the library. The scheduled meetings are: COEHS Monday, December 4, 2:00-3:30 p.m., Horrabin Hall 1 COAS Monday, December 4, 4:00-5:30 p.m., Morgan Hall 109 Library Tuesday, December 5, 2:00-3:30 p.m., Mary Lou Kent Conference Room COBT Wednesday, December 6, 4:00-5:30 p.m., Stipes Hall 121 COFAC Thursday, December 7, 4:00-5:30 p.m., Sallee Hall 101 The planned meetings are in response to discussion at the Faculty Senate meeting of October 31, and are preparatory to actual classroom visits by technology personnel. 4. Lisa Wen, Chemistry, will replace T.K. Vinod as the College of Arts and Sciences representative on the University Personnel Committee during Dr. Vinods Spring 2007 sabbatical. III. Reports of Committees and Councils A. Council on Curricular Programs and Instruction (Nancy Parsons, Chair) 1. Requests for New Courses a. BIOL 350, General Ecology, 4 s.h. Biological Sciences Chair Rick Anderson told senators that BIOL 350 is one of the new courses developed as a result of assessment. He said that although it is part of curricula revision within the major, BIOL 350 is a stand-alone course that is intended to become a prerequisite for advanced ecology courses. b RPTA 270, Introduction to Nonprofit Organizations, 3 s.h. RPTA professor Dean Zoerink explained that RPTA 270 is required for certification by American Humanics, a nationally affiliated organization that certifies students with specific competencies related to nonprofits. He explained that both RPTA 270 and 470 are being offered as experimental courses. c RPTA 470, American Humanics Management Institute: Nonprofit Youth and Human Service Organizations, 0 s.h. RPTA 470 involves student attendance at a conference and is S/U graded. When asked if the course includes an alternative to conference attendance for those students who cannot afford this or whose schedules prevent their attendance, Dr. Zoerink responded that students who wish to become certified need to take RPTA 470, but they can undertake the American Humanics minor without pursuing certification. d ZOOL 408, Field Ornithology, 3 s.h. In response to a question, Dr. Anderson explained that ZOOL 409, which is being deleted as a result of the addition of ZOOL 408, was originally designed as a short, weekend course established to meet the needs of particular Elementary Education students and has had low enrollments. New course ZOOL 408 is designed to utilize the Kibbe Life Sciences field station as a resource for research activities. NEW COURSES APPROVED 2. Request for Change in Minor a. Microcomputer Applications CHANGE IN MINOR APPROVED B. Committee on Committees (Joan Livingston-Webber, Chair) UNIVERSITY COUNCILS: Affirmative Action and Equity Council Michael McGowan, RPTA replacing Richard Hendriksen 2008 At-large IV. Old Business A. Motions on a Foreign Language/Global Issues Requirement 1. The Faculty Senate recommends either a foreign language or a global issues requirement be instituted for all students. 2. The requirement in motion #1 will be imposed as a graduation requirement. 3. Each department will institute the foreign language/global issues requirement for its students under guidelines that will be approved by Faculty Senate. 4. Departments can specify how the foreign language/global issues requirement will be met from among the following options: a. Successful completion of an intermediate foreign language requirement or demonstration of equivalent proficiency. b. Take a General Education course that is designated as GI. Appropriate courses will be determined by the Council on General Education/General Education Review Committee with input from the Council for International Education. c. Take a (300-level or higher) course in the major, or in another department, that is designated and approved as GI by a council or committee delegated to do so by Faculty Senate. d. Participation in a study abroad program of sufficient length and breadth as approved by Faculty Senate. e. Participation in an off-campus domestic program that is of sufficient length and breadth as approved by Faculty Senate. (Note: the idea behind e. is something like an internship in Appalachia, inner city, Native American Indian reservation, etc.) Chairperson Rock explained that senators can amend, reject, approve, or change the motions proposed by the Executive Committee, as they are intended as a place to start discussion. By their placement on the agenda by ExCo, the Parliamentarian has explained that the motions are considered to have already been moved and seconded. Senator Brice related an anecdote typifying students need for some sort of greater global education. He told senators the College of Arts and Sciences sent a survey to students at all levels and in all colleges regarding their interest in courses on Latin. Over 200 students have responded, and three percent of those have indicated that Western should offer Latin in order to strengthen its Latin American studies. Senator Brice said that the comments are not jokes, and are often strongly argued, but they clearly show that a broader global education for ϲʷ¼ students is needed to help minimize these kinds of miscommunications. Senator Wolf stated that when discussion of a foreign language/global issues (FLGI) requirement was first initiated two years ago, she was concerned that a decision would be made without enough thought, discussion, and surveys of faculty opinions. She said that this has now taken place, and she adamantly believes that Senate now needs to consider the specific motions and to move forward. She pointed out that Motion #1 does not say how a requirement would be implemented but just asks senators to indicate if the University should or should not have a requirement. Senator Boynton pointed out that the FLGI subcommittees goals appear to address more global perspectives than global issues. She stated that global issues would seem to indicate such topics as global warming or immigration, and she asked how that language was selected by the subcommittee. Chairperson Rock responded that global issues was coined before the subcommittee received its assignment, and FLGI subcommittee chair John Miller added that the subcommittee used a combination of both terms when developing its goals. Dr. Miller stated that the terminology of global issues can be difficult to grasp, but it is fairly consistently used in the field as academics try to come to grip with this initiative. Senator Livingston-Webber asserted that the only position the Department of English and Journalism will support is for a foreign language requirement across the board. She added that the decision was voted upon unanimously by approximately 30 English Department faculty last week. Senator Ness said he also asked constituents about the proposal, and they felt that it would be difficult to impose a foreign language requirement that did not, in many cases, have any relevance to students areas of study and would be just another hoop to jump through in order to graduate. Senator Adkins stated that in a meeting with other College of Education and Human Services chairs, concerns were expressed regarding implications of staffing and resource allocations if the requirement is established, so he would not support Motion #1 at all. Senator Clontz stated that the COEHS Faculty Council also met last week and agreed with the position of their chairs, so he also would not support the first motion. Senator Adkins said he objected to the prescriptive nature of the motion and was concerned about the implications of who would teach the required course(s), funding for the courses, and what would occur if a department does not already have a course that would satisfy the criteria. Senator Clontz stated that COEHS faculty expressed concerns regarding the number of hours already required in their majors, particularly within Education where more of the curriculum is set by outside sources. Senator Wolf asserted that she does not see Motion #1 as prescriptive at all but rather an expression of whether students should be required to complete one or the other of the requirements. Senator Wolf added that although she understands the concerns of those in her field, Teacher Education, she feels that students need to be better prepared to go into classroom situations. She added that the sense of the Senate two weeks ago seemed to be that flexibility would be key, and she feels that the details of how the requirement can best be implemented can be worked through and figured out after a determination of support for the requirement is established. Senator Clontz stated that one question raised at the COEHS Faculty Council was how a FLGI requirement differs from the multicultural Gen Ed requirement and why it cannot fit into that category. When asked if COEHS would still be opposed if the requirement were included in Gen Ed, Senator Adkins stated that he would be willing to consider it as a Gen Ed requirement. Chairperson Rock pointed out that Motion #1 was intended as a general statement with subsequent motions progressing from it, with Senator Shouse explaining that Motion #1 represents more a sentiment of Faculty Senates beliefs. Senator Hironimus-Wendt stated that he would vote in favor of Motion #1 because foreign language is at least part of it. Senator Hironimus-Wendt went on to say that it shocks him to sit on a Faculty Senate where there is a core curriculum of 43 s.h. yet there is overwhelming concern to protect the other 77 s.h. at the department level. He added that he has looked through the majors as reflected in the undergraduate catalog and is surprised that semester hours at the division level cannot be sacrificed and that the FLGI requirement can only be considered as coming from the 43 core hours. The senator stated that he has seen other models that work differently, and he does not feel it would overly burden any department to find a way to make the requirement work. Senator Boynton responded that 60 percent of History Department majors are in Teacher Education, which at 130 s.h. does not have any extra space. She added that Biology has a 153 s.h. major, so for some it is really a crunch to fit in extra requirements. Senator Hironimus-Wendt responded that he understands that some majors are overwhelmingly large, but other institutions have an undergraduate FLGI requirement, so it can be done. He added that there appears to be too much protection of the majors and not enough concern about students. Senator Adkins stated that every chair at the COEHS meeting supported the spirit of foreign language instruction as well as global perspectives/issues. He said chairs are supportive and concerned that their students be world citizens; their apprehension centers on where the requirement lies and how it is operationalized. Senator Adkins told senators he believes in knowledge-based governance, discussing issues and moving toward informed decision making, and it is hard for him to think that Faculty Senate can only spend two to three hours a month on an issue that has huge, far-reaching ramifications in a lot of ways. The senator concluded that where the requirement is positioned makes a huge amount of difference. Associate Provost Baily stated that Provost Rallo would like for senators to consider Motion #1, and that it seems that senators are becoming too focused on implementation. She advised senators to decide if they support the concept; if senators do not support it, then the discussion would not go further, and if they do, then the debate begins on how the requirement would appear and be implemented. Senator Ness pointed out that if the Senate rejects Motion #1, then the remaining motions become irrelevant. He said that constituents who responded to him with objections to a foreign language requirement still expressed support for the idea of some sort of global issues initiative. He pointed out that Motion #1 is only asking senators to support the idea of making ϲʷ¼ students more internationally aware, and that if senators vote against that motion they are saying that concept is irrelevant to Western students. Senator Miczo asked why there is so much Gen Ed and so many Gen Ed categories. Senator Clontz asked how an additional semester hour requirement would affect GradTrac and the guarantee to students to graduate with 120 s.h. Associate Provost Baily responded it would depend on where the additional semester hours would be located. Senator Brice asserted that senators need to make an informed decision, but that Motion #1 has been considered for over two years and everybody seems to be in agreement for the idea of a requirement. He said in respect to Motion #1, it is time to fish or cut bait even though the Senate may not know what it is fishing for. Motion: To call the question (Brice/Allen) MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION APPROVED 19 YES 0 NO 0 AB MOTION #1 APPROVED 13 YES 4 NO 2 AB Chairperson Rock explained that Motion #2 addresses whether the requirement should affect all students since if it is implemented as a Gen Ed requirement, transfer students entering Western with an associates degree or having completed their IAI requirements would not be obliged to complete it. In response to a question, Chairperson Rock clarified that if it is determined to be a graduation requirement, then students who transfer in with the above conditions would need to have an alternative way of meeting it. He further explained that if implemented as a graduation requirement, the proposal could still have a Gen Ed component to it. Senator Livingston-Webber stated that she does not see how a Gen Ed course can be used to satisfy a graduation requirement, but Senator Shouse explained that it would work more like a check-off graduation requirement that can be fulfilled by taking a Gen Ed course. Senator DeVolder remarked that Motion #3 would seem to make Motion #2 redundant, and that he would support Motion #3 but not #2. When asked if Motion #2 was intended as a University graduation requirement, Chairperson Rock responded that was the original intention. He stated that all students, regardless of whether they came to Western as freshmen or as transfer students, would be required to meet the requirement. Parliamentarian Hample explained that ExCo felt that the two alternatives for FLGI were as a graduation or a Gen Ed requirement, so graduation requirement was rather arbitrarily chosen to include in the motion in order to begin the debate. He added that changing Motion #2 to a Gen Ed requirement would take Motion #3 out of play. Senator Shouse asked if the options within Motion #4 are the only choices for departments, stating she would prefer possibilities rather than a finite list. Senator Boynton stated that she had interpreted Motion #4 as the guidelines that will be approved by Faculty Senate as specified in Motion #3. Chairperson Rock confirmed that this was the intention of the motions. Senator Wolf suggested that perhaps a 4.f. should be added that would allow departments to establish other options that could be approved with some sort of oversight. Computer Science professor Marty Maskarinec noted that although the advantage to a graduation requirement is that all students would have to complete it, the disadvantage is that when students change majors, the requirement may change, which would not occur if one general requirement were established. He added this could be a burden on students who transfer to Western or change their majors multiple times and may have to take multiple courses to meet the requirement as defined by departments. Information Management and Decision Sciences Chair Tej Kaul suggested that a global issues category could be established outside of the Gen Ed framework so that if a student takes a GI course regardless of the major, that course would be accepted as having met the GI requirement. Senator Livingston-Webber told senators she had checked websites for the University of Illinois at Springfield and Champaign and for Illinois State University, and each indicated that the only foreign language course that could count as Gen Ed was the third semester. She pointed out that currently ϲʷ¼ counts 4 s.h. of foreign language in Gen Ed Humanities. She suggested that if one of the reasons for having a FLGI requirement is partly because other Illinois institutions have one, it might be wise to structure the requirement in a similar fashion with the other schools. Senator Ness remarked that perhaps some schools only accept the third semester as a Gen Ed requirement because that is when students really start to apply the foreign language. He pointed out that having one semester of GI to fulfill a FLGI requirement might be acceptable whereas one semester of a foreign language would not. Senator Clontz pointed out that the faculty survey indicated that faculty would prefer a Gen Ed requirement. Senator Hironimus-Wendt asked if making FLGI a graduation requirement would open it up more to double dipping. Senator Shouse responded that double dipping already occurs in Gen Ed since 6 s.h. of Gen Ed courses can be applied toward the major but that graduation requirements do not usually serve multiple purposes. Motion: To send Motion #2 to CAGAS and GERC conjointly to develop specific proposals with consideration of the ramifications of both FLGI graduation and Gen Ed requirements. (Clontz/Hall) Senator Clontz stated that he would like to see specific proposals developed so that Senate is not considering generalities. He explained that if proposals are developed regarding how many hours and classes would be considered, possible ramifications can be considered and Faculty Senate can vote on something concrete. Senator Shouse, who chairs the General Education Review Committee (GERC), stated she would oppose sending the motion to GERC. She noted such a move would defer some of the things that GERC is charged to complete, and the recommendation that is brought back to Senate could still be voted down. She indicated that more direction is needed from Faculty Senate as to whether senators wish for FLGI to be a Gen Ed requirement before she would support taking time away from the Gen Ed review process since developing a specific recommendation would be very time consuming. Senator Shouse pointed out that GERC is presently reviewing the Gen Ed curriculum, not reviewing each Gen Ed class. If Faculty Senate wants GERC to submit a course-by-course recommendation, that would push back the process of broadly reviewing the curriculum. When asked if she thought that making Global Issues a separate Gen Ed category makes sense, Senator Shouse responded that doing something more general would be easier. Senator DeVolder stated that he sees Motion #4 as something that would be sent to councils to consider, but that if a graduation requirement is not recommended by Senate, it does not make sense to put CAGAS through the work of preparing a recommendation, and likewise for GERC if a Gen Ed requirement is not preferred. Senator Boynton pointed out that Senate already sent the question to a constituted committee and they came back with options but did not feel empowered to make a decision, so it would not seem to be advisable to send the question to committees until after a decision is made on Motions #2 and #3. Senator Shouse added that if Motion #4 is approved, then it would become part of the charge for the Gen Ed review process, but that making a recommendation prior to Senate even saying that they support a Gen Ed requirement could be a lot of work for nothing. FLGI subcommittee and CAGAS chair John Miller asserted that what is needed is a very clearly stated policy that can then be sent back to Faculty Senate for review. He pointed out that there are proposals currently before GERC that do address the overarching framework on what a FLGI Gen Ed requirement would look like. He pointed out that Senator Clontzs motion is intended to flesh out the proposal so that senators can know more clearly what they are voting for or against. Senator DeVolder stated that the decision of what to charge councils to accomplish should be made during Motion #4. He pointed out that any council reports must be approved by Faculty Senate before going forward to administration, so there is no purpose in asking councils to do something if Senate may not even want it. Senator Livingston-Webber stated she is unsure she could support a graduation requirement because it might result in the University may losing a substantial number of students, particularly if other schools include the requirement within Gen Ed. Senator Hironimus-Wendt stated his opposition to tabling Motion #2. Motion: To call the question (Livingston-Webber/Clontz) MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION APPROVED 19 YES 0 NO 0 AB MOTION TO SEND CONSIDERATION OF MOTION #2 TO CAGAS/GERC FAILED 2 YES 16 NO 1 AB Senator Shouse stated she would vote against Motion #2 in order to get to Motion #3, which is clearer. Chairperson Rock remarked out that since Motion #1 applies to all students, then perhaps Motion #2 is not necessary. Parliamentarian Hample explained that ExCo was trying to create a funneling of motions from less to more specific, and they felt that the second logical issue for senators to consider was a graduation versus a Gen Ed requirement, with the third issue being departmental versus University versus college. Senator Hironimus-Wendt noted that Motion #3 would effectively accomplish having all students complete the requirement, whether transfer students or otherwise. Motion: To table Motion #2 (Livingston-Webber/Boynton) Dr. Kaul pointed out that in the case of WID, the course comes from the department yet is considered a graduation requirement, so Motions #2 and #3 would be similar in this regard. MOTION TO TABLE APPROVED 14 YES 3 NO 2 AB Friendly amendment: To change the word students to majors in Motion #3 so that it reads, Each department will institute the foreign language/global issues requirement for its students majors under guidelines that will be approved by Faculty Senate. (Hironimus-Wendt/Livingston-Webber) FRIENDLY AMENDMENT ACCEPTED Senator Clontz asked if any students would not be covered under the term majors in the motion. Chairperson Rock responded this eventuality could be worked out with CAGAS, but that the student would still have to arrange to meet the requirement. Director of the University Advising Center Candace McLaughlin added that the same situation sometimes occurs with the WID graduation requirement. Senator DeVolder told senators he is very much in favor of having this decision made at the departmental level. Senator Ness asked what would happen to Motion #1 if the Senate votes against Motion #3. Parliamentarian Hample responded that other alternatives, such as having the college or University institute the requirement, could then be considered. Senator Livingston-Webber stated she would like to see the requirement be instituted at the college level rather than the departmental level; the college could then grant the department permission to determine the requirement if it wishes to do so. She pointed out that the College of Arts and Sciences has more Gen Ed requirements than other colleges, and they are determined at the college rather than the departmental level. Senator Shouse pointed out that there does not seem to be anything that would prevent colleges from coming up with their own FLGI requirement in addition to that established by their departments. Senator Boynton pointed out that some colleges have very different needs among their departments, such as LEJA and Education within the College of Education and Human Services, so that one college-level requirement may not make sense for all. Senator Brice also expressed support for keeping the decision at the department level. Senator Hironimus-Wendt clarified that Motion #3 only requests of each department to make sure it has a FLGI requirement, but deans could establish a college-level requirement for uniformity across their departments if they wish to do so. Senator Livingston-Webber proposed that a college could determine that their policy is that each department will decide how to implement the FLGI requirement. Senator Shouse stated she does not think that most departments would want colleges to decide what the requirement should be for them. Both Senators Clontz and Boynton stated their support of a departmental-level decision. Senator Boynton added that survey responses indicate that faculty are more comfortable with the requirement being determined at the department level, and that seems to be the direction in which Faculty Senate is moving. Motion: To call the question (Meloy/Livingston-Webber) MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION APPROVED 19 YES 0 NO 0 AB MOTION #3 APPROVED WITH FRIENDLY AMENDMENT 19 YES 0 NO 0 AB Chairperson Rock told senators that Motion #4 was put together by the Executive Committee with their best thoughts at the time but without studying all of the ramifications and flexibility issues. He suggested that senators may want to engage in a general discussion of whether the options in Motion #4 make sense so that if the decision is made to send them to committee, the committee might have a better sense of what Faculty Senate thinks about them. Motion: To refer Motion #4 back to council to be discussed by a committee of CAGAS and GERC (Brice/Jelatis) Senator Shouse stated that she could support this motion now that Senate has determined upon a specific requirement. But Senator DeVolder stated he still has concerns that Senate may be sending a council off to do a lot of unnecessary work because senators have not said specifically what they want. He added that 4.a. through 4.e. may not cover everything that Senate wants in a FLGI requirement, and he would be in favor of adding a generic 4.f. as well. He urged that Motion #4 would be worth discussing for the opportunity of explicitly including or excluding things from the plan. Senator Boynton stated that if sent to committee, it should include representatives from the Council for International Education (CIE) and the Department of Foreign Languages and Literatures. Senator Brice explained that he made the motion because there seems to be gray areas between Motions #3 and #4, and the options within #4 need to be more clearly determined with the ramifications considered before the Senate can vote on the motion. Parliamentarian Hample pointed out, however, that all of the options would go to committee(s) after Motion #4 was passed. Senator DeVolder stated that the options should go to different councils for consideration; he sees 4.a. being considered by CAGAS and Foreign Language representatives, 4.b. as being a Gen Ed discussion, 4.c. yet to be determined, and 4.d. seeming to rest with Faculty Senate. Senator Shouse pointed out that the Council on General Education (CGE) and GERC are two separate entities and she is unsure which entity would be better to examine the issue. Senator Boynton noted that CGE is charged by Faculty Senate with determining what courses receive Gen Ed credit, and Senator Shouse added that it could also be considered within the Gen Ed review. CCPI Chair Nancy Parsons pointed out that the additional requirement will undoubtedly result in changes to majors that will also come through CCPI. Senator Ness told senators that one constituent expressed her objections to 4.e. on the grounds that she had grown up in the inner city and didnt consider it international, and the other two examples were multicultural rather than international. The senator suggested eliminating 4.e. Senator Boynton expressed her agreement with this suggestion. Senator Livingston-Webber wished to make a motion to eliminate 4.e. from consideration, but was advised that this could not yet be moved because there is already a motion on the floor. MOTION TO SEND TO COMMITTEE WITHDRAWN Motion: To remove 4.e. from the list within Motion #4 (Livingston-Webber/Shouse) MOTION TO ELIMINATE 4.E. APPROVED 19 YES 0 NO 0 AB MOTION TO SEND TO COMMITTEE REINSTATED Senators discussed where the options within Motion #4 should be referred. Senator Hironimus-Wendt pointed out that CIE approval would not necessarily be required for a global issues course if it is not international, so he would prefer that it be sent to CGE and CAGAS. Senator DeVolder stated he does not think the options within the motion should be sent anywhere until Faculty Senate votes on Motion #4, at which point a. through d. can then be separated out and sent to the appropriate councils or committees. He pointed out that CAGAS does not need to consider 4.b. at all, and it is important that the options need to go to the right places for recommendations. Senator Jelatis agreed that the items should not be referred to councils inappropriately, but stated she does not feel that Senate knows enough about the ramifications of Motion #4 to vote on it. Senator Livingston-Webber agreed that Senate should not vote Motion #4 up or down without further study. The senator stated she looked at 4.a. through 4.d. as options rather than guidelines, and that these would not be the only ways that the FLGI requirement could be fulfilled. Dr. Kaul asked which committee or council of Faculty Senate will be charged with the jurisdiction of enforcing the requirement and determining the guidelines. He noted that CAGAS can enforce the requirement at the time of graduation but may not be the specific council charged with the particular responsibility of determining the guidelines. Senator Ness remarked that if Faculty Senate sends consideration of the options within Motion #4 to more than one committee, the Senate leaves itself open to a lot of variation in how the requirement should be implemented since one committee could recommend something that overlaps or conflicts with the recommendation of another committee. He suggested that the question of how Motion #4 should be addressed should be sent back to the Executive Committee. Senator Boynton suggested that a task force could be developed to determine the FLGI guidelines mentioned in Motion #3, to consist of representatives from CGE and perhaps CIE, CAGAS, and Foreign Languages and Literatures with ExCo to determine the formation of the committee. Parliamentarian Hample, speaking as a faculty member, stated that if he was on CGE, he would refuse the charge because it could take up to a year to determine a list of GI courses, and to do that without the Senate having said that GI courses should be housed within Gen Ed would be crazy. Senator Shouse remarked that GERC consists of 25 members, and that to try to get decisions made is very difficult. She elaborated that its difficult to get any type of movement, and that to deal with an issue as big and important as this with very little direction from Faculty Senate would be difficult and uncomfortable. Senator DeVolder told senators that if they need information back on items 4.a. through 4.d. before voting on Motion #4, then perhaps a list of guidelines needs to be developed such as is specified in Motion #3 before sending the options to councils and having them do a lot of work that may be then dismantled at a subsequent Faculty Senate meeting. Senator Hironimus-Wendt suggested that Motion #4 be referred to ExCo before being reconsidered by the full Senate. Senator Jelatis agreed that it would be nice if ExCo could look at the motion and refine it before sending it to committee(s) to start from scratch. Senator Livingston-Webber remarked that rather than sending the motion back to ExCo, senators could come back to Senate with ideas of what the various options could mean specifically. She feels more expertise is needed as a whole than ExCo can provide. Senator Wolf suggested that senators can go back to their departments to discuss what would work best for their students. Senator Rock reminded senators that CIEs policies and procedures document will likely come back before them at the next Faculty Senate meeting, and it would take precedence over further discussion of FLGI because something needs to get nailed down on it as soon as possible to enable the International Studies major to progress. MOTION TO SEND TO COMMITTEE WITHDRAWN When asked if the motion would return to the Senate agenda exactly as it is currently stated, Parliamentarian Hample responded that since ExCo had moved and seconded the motion, they could bring it back to Faculty Senate with friendly amendments. Senator Rock encouraged senators to provide ExCo members with specific suggestions for language for 4.a., b., c., and d. and to consider all possible ramifications. V. 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